tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post6691116695462718061..comments2024-03-12T09:39:48.847-07:00Comments on New Indology: Why a new Indology?Giacomo Benedettihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-84879460626545453892013-03-02T08:42:38.924-08:002013-03-02T08:42:38.924-08:00Literacy in pre-Buddhist India (before 600 BC)
Pl...Literacy in pre-Buddhist India (before 600 BC)<br /><br />Please find my collection of papers on literacy in Pre-Buddhist India<br /><br />Before mature phase of Indus valley civilization (before 2600 BC)<br /><br />- There are some potters marks but none qualify as full writing <br /><br />Indus valley civilization (2600 BC to 1900 BC)<br /><br />1. The reconfirmation and reinforcement of the Indus script thesis (very logical and self explanatory paper)<br /><br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/46387240/Sujay-Indus-Script-Final-Version-Final-Final<br /><br />2. The reintroduction of the lost manuscript hypothesis (the case for this thesis has obviously become much stronger in the recent past)<br /><br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/111707419/Sujay-Indus-Reintroducing-Lost-Manuscript-Hypothesis<br /><br />Post-Harappan India (1600 BC to 600 BC) <br /><br />1. Literacy in post-Harappan india (obviously literacy in post-Harappan India existed in certain pockets & were limited to very small sections of society- alphabetic scripts were brought from West Asia and the Indus script also continued – this a very logical and self-explanatory paper and anyone can cross-verify the conclusions)<br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/127306265/Sujay-Post-Harappan-Literacy-and-origin-of-Brahmi<br /><br />Sujay Rao Mandavilli<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-6282776508518218912013-02-26T02:23:10.617-08:002013-02-26T02:23:10.617-08:00i am pleased to announce the publication of my fif...i am pleased to announce the publication of my fifth research paper in a peer-reviewed journal<br /> <br />this deals with the origin of Brahmi . this is a logical and self-explanatory paper and is written using a multi-disciplinary approach. it is written in such a way that anybody can cross-verify the conclusions.<br /> <br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/127306265/Sujay-Post-Harappan-Literacy-Final-Final-Final<br /><br />sujay rao mandavilliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-83152246264982442282012-12-12T12:35:38.253-08:002012-12-12T12:35:38.253-08:00INDUS SCRIPT WAS TRUE WRITING
Please find my two...INDUS SCRIPT WAS TRUE WRITING<br /> <br />Please find my two papers below and circulate amongst the skeptics, particularly!<br /> <br />To state the obvious, the Indus script was a logo-syllabic script and a lost corpus did exist.<br /> <br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/46387240/Sujay-Indus-Script-Final-Version-Final-Final<br /> <br />Published in the ICFAI journal of history and culture, January 2011<br /> <br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/111707419/Sujay-Indus-Reintroducing-Lost-Manuscript-Hypothesis<br /> <br />Published in International journal of philosophy and journal sciences , November 2012<br /> <br />I am also introducing logo-syllabic thesis B in this paper<br /> <br />The paper is very self-explanatory! does anybody still beg to differ?<br /> <br />Sujay Rao Mandavilli<br />Sujay Rao Mandavillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03155433217750866984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-90925756990422939192012-04-25T15:31:48.845-07:002012-04-25T15:31:48.845-07:00Well, there is at least one Early Harappan site in...Well, there is at least one Early Harappan site in western UP, Nawanbans, and later there are other Harappan sites like Alamgirpur, Hulas and Sinauli. The Ochre Coloured Pottery is also contemporary of Harappans in UP. But the most interesting site in UP is Jhusi, that I have cited in a previous post about the roots of Indian civilization, which is near Prayag, and has a continuous occupation from the Neolithic times (at least VII mill. BC).<br />It is a good observation that in UP there are big historical cities, and this is an obstacle to excavations, for instance maybe in Varanasi they could find something more ancient than Rajghat (800 BC) under the city. At least not far from Varanasi, at Aktha and Sarai-Mohana, they have found remains from 1200 BC. But it seems that for finding something similar to Harappan cities we have to wait the historical period: in the mound of Kampilya, Italian archaeologists have found a city with a structure analogous to Dholavira (http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/DC21Df02.html).Giacomo Benedettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-71238489510490331442012-04-23T09:43:19.546-07:002012-04-23T09:43:19.546-07:00Another aspect I want to mention is....supposed ab...Another aspect I want to mention is....supposed absence of Indus river valley culture in ganges river valley.<br />Is it really true?<br /><br />Because Indus river valley cultural sites are found as south as Maharashtra. <br />Then if they are present in Punjab region, why not in uttar pradesh region?<br />what factors were preventing them from having sites there? I don't find any great barrier ( presence of dense jungle or long desert seperating/ isolating Punjab region from uttar pradesh region)<br />thus my guess is not just after drying up of saraswati, but since early on ganges river might atleast would have few cities/ sites with culture similar to Indus river.<br /><br />The questions is why they have not been discovered yet?<br />larger questions would be, were the previous archeologist thorough and comprehensive in their search or not?<br /><br />Also the reason might be , it is highly populated area with continuous human habitation, thus one would have to dig inside the currently existing great cities and not some mounds of lost cities. <br /><br />ex. benares, mathura, prayag (allahabad).<br /><br />Probably one day we may find the remnants of ancient cities with culture very similar to Indus valley below these legendary cities.<br /><br />If there is Indus valley site in dwaraka, why not in ujjain, prayag, varanasi, kannauj, mathura?Xcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-26886014887776817722012-04-20T13:24:52.599-07:002012-04-20T13:24:52.599-07:00Yes, fascinating topic, there are traces of very a...Yes, fascinating topic, there are traces of very ancient trade between Africa and India and Southeast Asia. For instance, some cereals came to India from Africa in the prehistory. The Indian zebu arrived in Africa more recently, with the Arabs, but banana, I've discovered now thanks to your suggestion, has been found in Africa already in a 3000 BC level, and the origin is in New Guinea-Southeast Asia. Here in Paris there is a series of lectures about the archaeology of the Indian Ocean, so someone is working about that, and in India I know Sunil Gupta who is specialized in this field.Giacomo Benedettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-15599658024032478952012-04-19T17:46:48.576-07:002012-04-19T17:46:48.576-07:00Another aspect I can think of is cultural exchang...Another aspect I can think of is cultural exchange along Indian ocean rim prior to the European arrival post-Vasco de Gama.<br />There is history of cultural exchange across Indian ocean, and probably it goes back to two thousand years before Christ.<br />ex. how and when does banana plantation arrive in Africa?<br />This often is overlooked aspect of history...there are some groups working on this...but it could shed more light on maritime cultures and interactions. <br />Indian subcontinent , even before the arrival of europeans was culturally linked to africa, souhteast asia, arabia...how far doea that go back?<br />what are its implications?Xcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-23488247708612828192012-04-19T14:25:43.034-07:002012-04-19T14:25:43.034-07:00Thanks for the comment. About the 'sheet ancho...Thanks for the comment. About the 'sheet anchor', it is sound, at least because the edicts of Ashoka mention Hellenistic kings, and Greek sources mention the Mauryas. The exact dates of the Buddha are still quite controversial, but it is likely that He lived around the 5th century. <br />About the Puranic (and Epic) sources, I agree that they deserve attention, I used them in my doctoral thesis and in an article about archaeology and traditional chronology for the date of the Mahabharata battle and other events.Giacomo Benedettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-90916583385839199692012-04-19T09:50:12.897-07:002012-04-19T09:50:12.897-07:00Another new find is related to "sheet anchor&...Another new find is related to "sheet anchor" in the chronology of indology.<br />Supposedly the Megasthenes's account of interaction with Chandragupta has been the sheet anchor through which all the chrnology of Indian dynasties have been derived by old indologist.<br /><br />It can be reasoanbly doubted whether the interaction was with Chandragupta Maurya or with Chandragupta from Gupta empire.<br /><br />This creates mismatch of 600 years. <br />Thus Buddha might not have been from 6th century BC but quite earlier ...may be 1200 BC or may be 1500 BC.<br />If it is so then it has lot of implications related to Indus valley civilization, and overall history of India.<br /><br />I just wanted to put to your notice this aspect also.<br />So it is not only the ancient Indian history has been screwed, the medieval period or period at the time of Buddha also has been wrongly dated.<br />If this gets corrected by trusting the puranic sources then many things would fall in place.<br /><br /><br />Also another matter is related to trusting the Indian sources. My view is becoming that Indian sources are not only equally trustworthy but are more so.<br />Because science of astrology ( not in the derogratory pseudoscience sense), but science of creating calendars, observing stars , associated mathematics ( calculus, trignometry ) was far well developed in India.<br />According to many scieentist including C.k. raju. The 15th century mathematics of India has significant influence on later development of math. and physics in europe but it has not been given due credit it deserves.<br /><br />SO if this is true then there are many references to historical events in indian astrological texts or other texts in general.<br />These references could be far more accurate ( except mention of million year old civilization etc.).<br />So if new indology need to be developed , the archeoastronmy, the branch which takes seriously the mentions in these texts needs to be developed further.<br /><br />Checking these texts for internal consistancy, trying to critically look at these texts would provide further true insight into the actual dates of various historical events in India.<br /><br /><br />Thus doubting the old chronology and using puranic and astological sources for acurate dating, we may get clearer picture of India's past.<br />And there is very sound reason for making these corrections.Xcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-80109050169542463552012-04-09T18:05:19.216-07:002012-04-09T18:05:19.216-07:00I am from biomedical engineering background hence
...I am from biomedical engineering background hence<br />cannot play role bigger than mere reader.<br /><br />If you already not know "infinty foundation" , new jersey based foundation may be able to offer such help.<br /><br />bestXcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-8026853881654395932012-04-06T02:35:34.002-07:002012-04-06T02:35:34.002-07:00And for your advice, actually in Canada (for insta...And for your advice, actually in Canada (for instance Aklujkar in British Columbia), USA and India it seems that there is already a part of the academy interested in a change of paradigm, so maybe it's not necessary to create a new academic world against the 'old' one, even if there is still a lot of resistance and the idea of a journal devoted to the new paradigm can be interesting. If someone is interested, we can speak about it...Giacomo Benedettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-32182036648170345452012-04-06T02:24:15.486-07:002012-04-06T02:24:15.486-07:00Thank you for this significant appreciation!Thank you for this significant appreciation!Giacomo Benedettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-37276949838950799302012-04-05T23:35:15.604-07:002012-04-05T23:35:15.604-07:00another important point from philosophy of science...another important point from philosophy of science.....<br />soft sciences like history, archaeology, linguistics are very resistant to paradigm shift..<br />nrwer paradigm of indology need to have its own peer reviewed journals, its own conferences, its own rigorous discipline...to survive and make real changes in science..<br />that is my gut feeling...<br />being soft science orthodox indology would go on resisting changes.....Xcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-34155073089427154222012-04-05T23:34:54.402-07:002012-04-05T23:34:54.402-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Xcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-36886091611689525262012-04-05T14:34:42.984-07:002012-04-05T14:34:42.984-07:00hats off for you...because you stand apart from th...hats off for you...because you stand apart from the chauvinist Hindu revivalist...who , may be doing partly necessary propaganda, yet are unscientific in their approach, and also from the <br />old school western scholars who are too biased by their ageold constructions.Xcogitationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133644512560079349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-27444941622599146302010-02-22T13:10:39.790-08:002010-02-22T13:10:39.790-08:00Dear Dr. Kalyanaraman, thank you so much for your ...Dear Dr. Kalyanaraman, thank you so much for your congratulations. I already knew, obviously, of your work on the Sarasvati River, but I did not know your websites, which are really rich! I do not have much time in this period, but I will certainly appreciate them in the next days. I have already seen the short film about the Sarasvati River, which has reminded me of my visit of Adi Badri in 2004, thanks to a friend who is professor at Kurukshetra University.<br /><br />Namas karomi,<br /><br />Giacomo BenedettiGiacomo Benedettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418729274995219594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-88876785852725826992010-02-22T12:41:19.433-08:002010-02-22T12:41:19.433-08:00Very glad to see your blog. Thank you!Very glad to see your blog. Thank you!Shishir Thadanihttp://india_resource.tripod.com/indian-languages.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-222229208055459153.post-91966099963312025762010-02-21T15:38:37.387-08:002010-02-21T15:38:37.387-08:00This is a fascinating blog Giacomo Benedetti. It b...This is a fascinating blog Giacomo Benedetti. It brings a whiff of fresh air. Congratulations.<br /><br />I just want to post a link to my websites where many issues of the Hindu civilization are discussed with particular reference to Vedic River Sarasvati and Indus writing. Almost the entire corpus of inscriptions of the civilization is available there.<br />http://sites.google.com/site/kalyan97<br />http://sites.google.com/site/induswriting<br /><br />dhanyavaadah. Dr. S. Kalyanaraman, Sarasvati Research and Education Trustkalyan97https://www.blogger.com/profile/10697859363967489909noreply@blogger.com